B&M / Q&A

Bryant and May


Don’t believe that publishers spend their time waiting for authors to deliver. Much of our lives are spent waiting for publishers to decide. While I’m in a holding pattern over the fate of Bryant & May, and a number of other works, here’s a Q&A I did recently about writing.

‘The Bleeding Heart is the eleventh outing for your detectives and they’re still going strong. A couple of elderly and grumpy detectives don’t sound very appealing, and yet it works and they have a legion of fans. What is it about these two old, cantankerous gentlemen that make them so appealing to your readers?

I could make them simultaneously behave like experienced adults and immature children. I think heroes are so often boring simply because they have to be appealingly young and feisty, or troubled – well, they don’t have to be; they could be esoteric, eccentric, bad-tempered and as weird as the villains, who in most books are more interesting. So they’re normal human beings with a few accentuated quirks, and working like a comedian double-act, with a funny man and a foil.

Every case so far has a touch of the macabre. In ‘The Bleeding Heart’ the case revolves around a corpse coming alive, zombies and resurrectionists. As you also write horror besides the Bryant and May series, does your fascination for the supernatural bleed in to your detective novels?

I think so, but it was important that the stories were realistic and non-supernatural, so that they conformed to established crime rules. It was also important not to fall into the Scooby Doo trap of having everything explained as some kind of hoax. (‘It’s Mr Grudge, the old mill owner!’) And the London of my childhood was a city steeped in a far more gothic, sinister atmosphere  – I’m just playing up those memories. It’s a far more sanitised place now.

Your latest Bryant and May starts with a man appearing to escape from his own grave in St George’s Gardens in Bloomsbury. There are lots of tiny corners of London that crop up in your books that make it feel like an A to Z of hidden London. Is it your mission to show readers the hidden/lost parts of London?  

I’m a born Londoner and spent my childhood charging around the West End, but each discovery I made revealed the tip of something else. There’s a lot of lazy writing about London, but if you poke about and talk to people you discover incredible riches. ‘The Bleeding Heart’ started from hearing about the legend of Bleeding Heart Yard, but also from watching office workers on lunch breaks sitting on gravestones without any idea of who was buried beneath them. Death is still (just about) present in London, from gravestones to plaques and memorials.

This latest case is populated by the usual motley crew from the PCU, with a few new faces appearing. Is it difficult to keep an ongoing series fresh and attractive to your army of fans without changing the landscape too much?

I get bored easily, so I like to ring the changes a bit. I always wanted to explore my detectives’ careers from beginning to end, so I started with an origin story using the setting of old London theatres, because they’ve hardly changed in decades. London is full of unusual characters, so I use a lot of people I’ve met, including British Museum academics, artists, lecturers, a white witch, a scientist, members of the Gilbert and Sullivan society – all real (but exaggerated by the time I’ve finished with them!)

 You also published a graphic novel of Bryant and May. Were you conscious of the fact about giving people an image of the two gentlemen which may not have correlated with their own personal image of your elderly detectives?

Yes, and while I’m very proud of the book I’m not sure it worked, but not for that reason; after all, people don’t mind seeing their favourite detectives on TV. The problem was that crime fans don’t read graphic novels – the markets are separate, and in the UK we barely read comics at all compared to Europe. But it was a lovely exercise. I’m proud of the book and think artist Keith Page did a magnificent job.

You obviously do a lot of research on myths, folklore, the occult, spiritualism and all types of mysticism. Is it research for you or are you like a big kid in a sweet shop with this sort of stuff? As with Arthur Bryant, have you collected a raft of insider knowledge and contacts over the years?

Not intentionally, but I love doing the research, and my collection of personal-fave London books is pretty big now. As a location, London offers more anachronistic juxtapositions than most European cities – you’re likely to find a church beside a strip club – and it was important to find a way of reflecting this. Each story tries out a different kind of Golden Age mystery fiction; ‘Full Dark House’ is a whodunnit. ‘The Water Room’ is a John Dickson-Carr style locked-room mystery. ’77 Clocks’ is an adventure in the style of Bulldog Drummond, and so on.

The unlikeliest elements of these tales are mined from London’s forgotten lore; tales of lost paintings, demonised celebrities, buried sacrifices, mysterious guilds and social panics have casts of whores, mountebanks, lunatics and impresarios who have been washed aside by the tide of history – but their descendants are still all around us, living in the capital city. I’ve still only scratched the surface of those stories, but I can’t turn every book into a history lesson.

You have also written two memoirs. Was it a vastly different experience writing these books and in what way was the process different from writing fiction?

They sort of coalesced into being – I love doing readings, but often just reading out a chapter is confusing for an audience, so I took to writing snippets about my background. Soon my family and my love of books and films overtook these pieces, and I found that they were going down very well. I ended up with these strangely upbeat volumes, which I think of as anti-misery memoirs. The first memoir I ever read was Gerald Durrell’s enchanting ‘My Family And Other Animals’, and that left an impression.

For writers who are just starting out on their ‘novel journey’, what one piece of advice would you give?

Just one? Oh, man! How about this (actually two in one); You have to love something about your hero, and you must always leave room for your characters to breathe.

What would you say are the top three crime novels that have made a lasting impression on you?

Let’s not mention Sherlock Holmes here, or the wonderful Bleak House, which people tend to forget is a murder mystery. I’d go for personal game-changers.

The Moving Toyshop by Edmund Crispin taught me that crime could be great fun to read. Keith Ridgway’s astonishing Hawthorn & Child changed the rules for me by throwing out all the usual crime novel yardsticks and viewing events through a kaleidoscope. And AD Miller’s Snowdrops challenges you to try and understand if a crime has even been committed, forcing you to ask; what is a crime at all?

13 comments on “B&M / Q&A”

  1. K Page says:

    Interesting mention of Gerald Durrell; I was working on a newspaper strip feature with him just before he died.I loved all his books and I’ve been recently toying with an idea to present to Jersey Zoo [ which is called something else nowadays].Quite right about the graphic novel; we both agree it would have gone down well in France.

  2. Alan Morgan says:

    Villains are often more interesting as they are doing something. They have initiative. Heroes tend to wait around until there is something to stop. Plus villains have aims, ambitions. Heroes just want things to stay the way they are. Even when overthrowing some villain it’s only because the villain got there and did it, and the heroes want things to be the way they were.

    Villains have gumption.

    Arthur and John aren’t classically heroic. We like them for that. Plus the solution isn’t just punch it in the face until it stops. It’s not often nowadays that the protagonists are more interesting than the antagonists. To add to one of the earlier points in the piece. B&M are. We’d probably enjoy a book where they just ambled about and found interesting things and places to. The mystery is lovely icing.

    Oh, nice piccie btw 😀

  3. Helen Martin says:

    Yes, I liked the drawing, too. Gerald Durrell’s book has always been one of my favourites It seems to just rollick along, but if you read more slowly you can feel all the stuff going on underneath. I wonder if we lived our childhoods more slowly we’d grow up understanding more. Hmm.

  4. Helen Martin says:

    Oh, and I personally loved the graphic novel.

  5. Jo W says:

    Another reader for you,Admin. My brother found some B&M books in a secondhand bookshop and remembering that I had been telling him about them,thought he’d try them. He has thoroughly enjoyed them and now is looking out for more. He particularly liked the London locations and history in them,as being a Londoner,he can recognise exactly where the action is taking place. 🙂

  6. Brooke Lynne says:

    Bryant is pictured exactly as I imagined him–adorable.
    One reason I read the Bryant and May series is the luscious writing. I’m not sure how that would translate in a graphic novel. Guess I’ll purchase it, read it and find out.

  7. Christopher Fowler says:

    You see, everyone? Brooke knows how to curry favour.

  8. Helen Martin says:

    We’re not into curry, Chris.

  9. Alan Morgan says:

    I’m into curry 🙂

    Keith is the absolute master of portraying B&M. I wonder at the way he captures London, not just the very fine architecture but the manner by using pencils and washes he truly evokes the city. I wish I had half his ability.

    Just that the picture above, that’s one I did 🙂

  10. Brooke Lynne says:

    Christopher, I am a Bostonian. We do not “curry favor.” What an odd British phrase!
    BTW, please send Arthur to enjoy an exhibit of old maps currently at the Philadelphia Free Library. Included is the Map of Matrimony which locates the country of matrimony as due east of common sense. There’s a Map of Prohibition with clever jokes about each state, a Map of Dreamland (actually a protest against commercialism) and a Map of the Journey to Selfhood. Unfortunately, the evangelicals captured the spiritual territory with some rather gruesome maps.

  11. Mary Clarke says:

    I am still waiting for Bleeding Heart to come out in audio form. I’ve listened to all B&M in audio (obviously not the graphic novel) about three or four times, but now I need the new one. When will it be out?

  12. snowy says:

    Bleeding Heart doesn’t seem to be listed or billed as having a release date yet. The people that should know are ‘wholestoryaudiobooks’, a quick search should take one to their homepage. Perhaps drop them a line?

    A certain very large on-line retailer is offering me today free unabridged B&M audiobooks in return for signing up to a free trial of their audiobook service. For those that feel tempted, [and can access the offer], you can sign up, grab a free copy and then cancel the subscription at no cost.

    BUT [in big letters], make sure you DO CANCEL before the 30 day trial is up AND keep a close eye on what you are billed for in the following month or two. They have been known to be a bit inept, [or cheeky] when it comes to processing cancellations.

  13. Reuben says:

    Unrelated but I thought I’d mention it: I belong to a reading group and only rule that restricts our choices of book is that there is enough copies available for everyone in Suffolk’s library system. This does make selection difficult. (You can see where this is going can’t you). I wanted to pick the first B&M (I know admin always says you can start reading anywhere, but I wanted to start here), but sadly the library only has 2 copies of the audiobook. Some later books have as many as 5 copies in the whole county, still not enough. So I was wondering if you could re-release Full Dark House and re-title it as ’50 Shades Of Bryant & May’ and maybe the library will order some copies?

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